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Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.08.12 14:38:00 - [1] Edited by: Traidor Disloyal on 12/08/2009 14:40:40 Originally by: Jarvis Hellstrom The 'whine' isn't to 'stop' them. Just to let us shoot them. At least from my perspective. In fairness and balance I think that tractors should work for them too (a tractor beam shouldn't care who owns what - it's a tractor beam not an ownership checking beam) and I've no problem with wrecks becoming more easily scannable or with them becoming unowned for the last hour of their existence. All these things would keep salvaging alive as a mini-profession. I just have an issue with them doing it when I'm around and having no real recourse short of a suicide gank which can be hard on the sec status, not to mention the wallet as their griefboats are pretty much not worth blowing up. I agree. Ninja salvagers should go blinky red has soon has they salvage a mission wreak. Mission runners should be able to shoot at the friggen ninja salvagers. This would make the people in my corp happy. Sometimes the people in my corp complain that there is no loot to steal and thus can not get the mission runner to pop one off at em. I see death and destruction for a few months if this is ever implemented. After that mission runners will act the same way that miners do when people come in to flip a can. Do nothing, nothing at all. I take it back. Mission runners will do something. Run to the forums and cry to CCP how it is unfair that ninja salvagers can come into their missions and salvage their wreaks. Kind of like what they are doing now. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.08.12 20:20:00 - [2] Originally by: Jarvis Hellstrom Yawn Your jaw must hurt cause you Yawn a lot. I hope you get what you want. I really do. I want to see the crying on the forums when this happens. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.08.18 15:05:00 - [3] Nice thread. But the bottom line for me is this: I will keep salvaging wreaks created by other people until CCP tells me I can not. I will do it because I can. I don't care if I hurt the feelings of the person who created the wreak. I don't care if that person calls me names in local. I don't care if that person says anything in local. I don't care if that person war decs me or hires mercs to come after me. Do I care what people on the forums think about me? No I do not. So, until CCP changes the rules of their game I will do has I please because people in the game who I do this to are a bunch of unorganized entities who couldn't get together to stop me if their in game life depended on it. All they are capable of is running to the forums and complaining to CCP that people are taking their stuff and CCP should do something about it. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.08.18 16:21:00 - [4] I have a thought (don't friggin laugh): Why would CCP make a salvaging skill and have modules and rigs for it if they did not want people to salvage wreaks created by others? Why would CCP go through all that if they just wanted the wreak creator to have the salvage? Why not just place the salvage inside the wreak like the loot is now? I think they did it to make people mad. I think CCP is a bunch of grifers! Damn them! Damn them to the Seven Hells! ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.08.20 21:20:00 - [5] Originally by: Jarvis Hellstrom You aren't combat pilots you're schoolyard bullies. I am going to put something like this in my bio (or has my title), right under "Chicks dig HAC pilots": I'm not a combat pilot, I'm a schoolyard bully! ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.08.24 16:04:00 - [6] Originally by: Menilkir its all about showing a bit of courtesy and respect, something that seem to be lacking in both MMOG's and their relevant discussion forums. -Menilkir Courtesy and respect? In this game? I don't think so. At least not in High Sec. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.08.28 14:18:00 - [7] Originally by: Roozter Edited by: Roozter on 28/08/2009 04:42:06 Originally by: Mel Lifera Edited by: Mel Lifera on 28/08/2009 02:46:43 Originally by: Aklari Whatever CCP says, it is indeed an untruth, or an incomplete one at best, and we all know it. The MR has MORE rights to the ship than the random , no matter what CONCORD says. Whatever CCP says is the only thing that matters, period. Unless they said you will now be flagged when you take something that don't belong to you. Then you would not agree with them, right? The people who I fly with could care less if CCP made salvaging mission runners wreaks a flagging offense. Do it. Then you all will just complain that CCP needs to make missions locked for use by the mission runner only. If miners are any clue on what will happen, a majority of mission runners will complain if other people get flagged for salvaging the mission runners wreaks. Be careful what you wish for, for the consequences might not be what you wanted. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:53:00 - [8] Originally by: Roozter I am so proud of you guys who have all those cloaking skills and aggression mechanics knowledge. It may be a mistake to take it for granted that some of us are not skilled in other areas as well, including anti pirate skills AND cloaking V. Don't take it for granted that, just because we are 'care bears', that we can't hold our own. . I never take anything in this game for granted. I always assume that the other guy knows what he is doing. I always think the mission runners we go after are just alts of some big bad 0.0 PvP corp. Usually that isn't the case, but it is always best to be prepared for doggy doo to hit the fan. I'll say this much for having a character in Privateers for 5 months and especially for that last massive war dec in high sec before the "P" nerf, I have always treated high sec like low sec. Do your worse Mr. Mission Runner, I doubt very much you could surprise me with anything you do short of bringing a dread/carrier/titan into High Sec. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:30:00 - [9] Edited by: Traidor Disloyal on 28/08/2009 16:31:53 Originally by: Roozter We can't do our best, Concord holds your hand remember? War dec me and Concord will play no role. If you have the teeth, and really hate what we do to mission runners and feel like doing something about it, the corp I belong to is right under my name. We are not part of an Alliance so the war dec fee should be affordable for you. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.08.31 16:06:00 - [10] Yesterday: Originally by: Roozter Somebody told me yesterday that they don't flag freeloaders because of 'LAG'. The wrecks create lag and CCP is more than happy to have the freeloaders out there to help clean up, you know, like a Carp in the river. I don't know if that is true. Today: Originally by: Roozter After it was explained to me that this CCP rule was put in place simply to alleviate some of the lag caused by floating wrecks, I understood. Keep posting this and people are going to start thinking that CCP only did this for lag. You got anything from CCP to back that up with? You know like a post on the forums or in a DEV Blog? I can make stuff up too. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.08.31 17:35:00 - [11] Originally by: THE L0CK I thought Roozter was done with this thread? Have you wardec'd those ninja corps yet so you can freely shoot at them with out Concorde intervention? I think he meant he was just done for the day. And since it is a new day he is back. It really looks like he is in it for the fish since he admitted to not really contributing to the thread and just trolling to get people upset. No new war decs on my corp so I figure the dude is all bark and no bite. I think he is a closet ninja salvager and is just in denial. I do believe he will "come out of the closet" and announce to the Eve world that it feels good to ninja mission runners. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.08.31 19:31:00 - [12] Edited by: Traidor Disloyal on 31/08/2009 19:32:02 Originally by: Roozter If I did offend people, (as intended at times), I apologize. A 'heat of the moment' thing. Plus the fact that I did not understand the ruling at the time. Shame on me for speaking before understanding. I learned a long long long time ago (about 10 to 15 years) that slinging insults and cursing at people in a thread makes one look like a fool. And you don't have to eat crow at the end of the day. Being sarcastic, and being able to pull it off, on the other hand is kind of cool. I do slip up sometimes, but it is very rare. I have also learned not to take anything personal on any gaming forum. And if the rare occurrence does happen and I do get mad/upset at what someone posts I stop posting for a day to cool off. Originally by: Roozter BTW, have any openings over there? I promise to conform. You asking for a job? Be advised that a majority of people in the corp I belong to do not really hunt down mission runners to take their salvage. We mostly war dec corp/alliances in High Sec that have anywhere between 50 to 200 members listed in the attributes. We go after almost anybody. From the corp that says they are a PvP corp (who isn't) to the mission runner corp that actually does know more about PvP then the so-called PvP corp. We go after High Sec alliances that sometimes implode (or don't). And sometimes we get our asses handed to us. But considering that we operate mostly in High Sec we are looked down on by a majority of players. We are not ONE THREE THREE SEVEN. Heck, our CEO has been known to war dec a corp whose only misdeed was a member of said corp typing "oh noes" in local to something I said to another corp (who we were at war with) in local. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.09.03 13:55:00 - [13] Originally by: Miko Makkara CCP allows it couse they cant handle lag it creates I need to start making things up. Did you get this lag crap from the previous page or did you just pull it out your behind? Show us someone other then another player said this (you know, a DEV). ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.

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